22nd Mar 2008
Radiopopper testing
I am very excited to see the birth of the Radiopopper this year. This write-up will serve as a initial preview of my experience with this revolutionary unit. In order to give a full review, I will need this baby on a few of my wedding gigs. I hope to be shooting with them at my first few weddings in April. We haven’t used TTL at a wedding with off camera slaves in a long long time. Heck, I can’t tell you when. I love to change up my game, so the popper is an exciting new tool in my tool box!
We spent an hour or so the other day with these units. Ordinarily, Flashflavor photo subjects will be wedding related. I ask for your forgiveness with this post as we didnt have time to organize any test bridal models during the short term planning we did to organize this shoot.
I spent some time with a few other photographers to get some play time with Radiopopper (RP). We each got a chance to set up a makeshift subject and shoot each one of these subjects to test the strengths of RP. We tested firing 3 different flash groups TTL using the 580 EX II as the master unit and 3 remote slaves all in different groups, set to different ratios. Group A, Group B, and Group C. I didn’t actually do any test shots with these flash settings but hopefully, I can get a copy of the images from Stillmotion to showcase here.
When it became my turn to play with the flash, we found our way inside Battista’s Hole in the wall, a rustic Italian food joint with some serious history in Vegas. I wanted to add a little life to my test subject and on the spot, I found a cute little old guy who made a SLAM of a subject. Sorry to bother you with the details but I believe if you add a story line to a test subject, the impact of the lighting efforts actually make a lasting impression. Call me a dedicated photojournalist if you will 
In these photo examples, I used 3 flash unites in 2 different flash groups, Group A + Group B. (Remember, this is TTL folks). Group A 1:1 and Group B 1:4. We had 1 Radiopopper transmitter attached to the ST-E2 and 3 Radiopopper receivers attached to 580 EX II’s.
In this setup shot, I was shooting a Canon 5d with a ST-E2 wireless transmitter on the hotshoe . I had a RP attached to the top of the ST-E2. Group A was set to 1:1 and Group B was set to 1:4. Basically, I’ve told Group B to fire with 4 times more light than Group A. Group B’s units are placed behind subject on bench and camera right. I dialed my exposure in so that the ambient would hang out. What impressed me most about this is that we were limited here with time, with little or no actual test time to get ti done right. I shot 5 or 6 frames in this spot in the restaurant and I liked his expression best in these few frames. The RP allows you to set it and forget it. If this had been a Pocket Wizard setup (i still love my PW’s), I would have needed more time to set each unit up and get the job done. I took 5 minutes with this guy. With this kind of pressure, I’m starting to love the RP!
Here are my frames (all shot at ISO 400, 1/100th at 1.4)
Gordie has been playing the accordion at Battista’s for an outstanding 27 years. His listeners range from hookers and prostitutes to drunkards and party goers to the occasional superstars. His favorite musicians were the Oakridge boys! Batista’s ceilings are adorned with props and the walls are covered with their menus and wine bottles and different photos from the past. Battista is filled with low lighting and a moody atmosphere. I wanted to take a chance to add some light that would accentuate the mood that was plastered all over the walls.
I love how the backlight has added some dimension here. Remember, set it and forget it mentality.
Initially, when we choose a location in the restaurant to shoot Gordy, we found a spot that seemed perfect. After my first several frames, I had botched exposures and misfires. After expressing my concerns that something wasn’t right, Kevin King (RP Creator), pointed at the link light on the side of the RP and noted that it was blinking, indicating that there was some type of interference. The moment I started to actually test this baby, I found a circumstance that actually challenged its performance. Apparently, the link light on the receiver unit that indicates it has a link with the other will stay a solid yellow upon its initial link up. After a fire, it will turn off and back on to indicate that it has linked up. If it intermittently blinks then it indicates interference. The receiving unit may or may not fire, depending on the circumstance. We walked literally 15 feet to another location in the restaurant and the problem went AWAY… hey, that was easy enough.
Ok, so now I’ve found a problem on the first frame I’ve tried to expose. In all honesty, this inst my first experience with Interference while transmitting to a slave flash unit… On numerous occasions, I have been using pocket wizards and experienced some sort of interference where my slave units WOULD NOT FIRE. I can recall one specific wedding where Sol Tamargo & I were both trying to trigger our Pocket Wizards. We each have 5 pocket wizards and 4 or so Slaves, each. So thats 10 pocket wizards, 8 slave flashes. In the heat of the moment, we tested all of our PW’s and slaves, traded sync cords, did just about anything possible to make it happen… NADA. There was some sort of interference going on and we could not nail it down. I’m not sure what went on as we never figured it out, but the point is that interference has happened to me before when using a device that transmits via radio signals. The bottom line is that I’m not too worried about this potential problem with the RP at this point. I’ll need some more testing time to give you more thoughts on this.
After my turn was up, Ed Pingol stepped up to the plate and took the RP’s outside. He wanted to test the high speed sync abilities and used 2 slave units. I don’t have any of the TTL settings at this point, but I do know that he used a ST-E2 on the hotshoe and 2 groups on the slaves, A & B. One unit was 3-4 feet away, camera right and the other unit was 6-8 feet away, camera left. I was a spectator
Camera: Canon EOS 40D | ST-E2 set to High Speed Sync
Exposure: 1/8000 sec
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO: 100 - Focal Length: 17 mm
The model is my wife, Sol Tamargo
I’m loving the use of high speed sync with these RP units!
Well, for now, I’m going to close with those photos of my HOT wife…thanks Ed! Thanks Kevin for giving us a chance to play with your new toys! I look forward to working with these units at my next gig. I will be doing a writeup on what it is like to use the RP’s in a live environment where the pressure is ON!
Thoughts or comments about the TTL system and Radiopoppers innovative way to use Radio Signals…. please give us a shout or feel free to drop off your ideas.
I’m really curious as to how many of FF’s readers actually use Manual slave flash operation or TTL…
Cheers!
Mateo
**Update**
I didnt have too much time when I originally wrote this post, so I’ve added one more image that showcases a long distance field test in “ideal conditions” meaning open range without any interference. In this photo example, i’ve added a field test shot at 300+ feet. I’m the spec off in the distance under the arrow holding the flash that is actually being triggered at that distance. We tried several frames where I would stick my hand in front of the antenna and some where Kevin would face the opposite direction to test if and when the slave would trigger. Anyway, here is the football field test…
F3.5 1/4000 ISO 50 ST-E2 trigger on Camera.
photo by Kevin King
and a zoom of this frame to see the slave being triggered.
***Update 2***
I got a few frames from Stillmotion’s tip top shooter, Amina Myriam Wojcik. We were all tag teaming along with the crew who was testing the RP’s. Here are a few of her photos and her 2 cents… She shot these with a Canon 5d and a Tilt and Shift lens… She also has added a cool X-process flavor to her shots…
Amina writes:
At WPPI, I had a chance to check out the Radio Poppers. The group went on two shoots with them, one at a really cool restaurant called Battista’s Hole in the Wall, and on in the desert just outside of Las Vegas.
Because of the different shooting conditions, sometimes I was using one external flash, and sometimes more. I tested them at different ratios and groups, as well as channels and different levels of exposure compensation.
I found that it was easiest to use the ST-E2 with the Radio Poppers, since the ratio controls are right on the back of the unit, and really easy to access. The 580 EXIIs are great for it too, but it takes a little longer to switch settings, so if you’re in a time-crunching situation, be sure to have your “fit-in-your-pocket’ ST-E2.
The Radio Poppers worked at all settings reliably and allowed me to use high-speed sync in bright daylight without worrying about line of sight. It was awesome when I could light some guys playing hacky sack so easily. Now, focus was another issue! Ever tried shooting moving objects with a tilt-shift, at 2.8 in bright daylight with flashes behind your subjects? Not as easy as it sounds!
But it was super fun, and we all got some awesome shots out of it
Above four images credit: Stillmotion’s tip top shooter, Amina Myriam Wojcik.
Thanks Amina & the still motion crew for your help!
I am very excited to see the birth of the Radiopopper this year. This write-up will serve as a initial preview of my experience with this revolutionary unit. In order to give a full review, I will need this baby on a few of my wedding gigs. I hope to be shooting with them at my first few weddings in April. We haven’t used TTL at a wedding with off camera slaves in a long long time. Heck, I can’t tell you when. I love to change up my game, so the popper is an exciting new tool in my tool box!
We spent an hour or so the other day with these units. Ordinarily, Flashflavor photo subjects will be wedding related. I ask for your forgiveness with this post as we didnt have time to organize any test bridal models during the short term planning we did to organize this shoot.
I spent some time with a few other photographers to get some play time with Radiopopper (RP). We each got a chance to set up a makeshift subject and shoot each one of these subjects to test the strengths of RP. We tested firing 3 different flash groups TTL using the 580 EX II as the master unit and 3 remote slaves all in different groups, set to different ratios. Group A, Group B, and Group C. I didn’t actually do any test shots with these flash settings but hopefully, I can get a copy of the images from Stillmotion to showcase here.
When it became my turn to play with the flash, we found our way inside Battista’s Hole in the wall, a rustic Italian food joint with some serious history in Vegas. I wanted to add a little life to my test subject and on the spot, I found a cute little old guy who made a SLAM of a subject. Sorry to bother you with the details but I believe if you add a story line to a test subject, the impact of the lighting efforts actually make a lasting impression. Call me a dedicated photojournalist if you will
In these photo examples, I used 3 flash unites in 2 different flash groups, Group A + Group B. (Remember, this is TTL folks). Group A 1:1 and Group B 1:4. We had 1 Radiopopper transmitter attached to the ST-E2 and 3 Radiopopper receivers attached to 580 EX II’s.
In this setup shot, I was shooting a Canon 5d with a ST-E2 wireless transmitter on the hotshoe . I had a RP attached to the top of the ST-E2. Group A was set to 1:1 and Group B was set to 1:4. Basically, I’ve told Group B to fire with 4 times more light than Group A. Group B’s units are placed behind subject on bench and camera right. I dialed my exposure in so that the ambient would hang out. What impressed me most about this is that we were limited here with time, with little or no actual test time to get ti done right. I shot 5 or 6 frames in this spot in the restaurant and I liked his expression best in these few frames. The RP allows you to set it and forget it. If this had been a Pocket Wizard setup (i still love my PW’s), I would have needed more time to set each unit up and get the job done. I took 5 minutes with this guy. With this kind of pressure, I’m starting to love the RP!
Here are my frames (all shot at ISO 400, 1/100th at 1.4)
Gordie has been playing the accordion at Battista’s for an outstanding 27 years. His listeners range from hookers and prostitutes to drunkards and party goers to the occasional superstars. His favorite musicians were the Oakridge boys! Batista’s ceilings are adorned with props and the walls are covered with their menus and wine bottles and different photos from the past. Battista is filled with low lighting and a moody atmosphere. I wanted to take a chance to add some light that would accentuate the mood that was plastered all over the walls.
I love how the backlight has added some dimension here. Remember, set it and forget it mentality.
Initially, when we choose a location in the restaurant to shoot Gordy, we found a spot that seemed perfect. After my first several frames, I had botched exposures and misfires. After expressing my concerns that something wasn’t right, Kevin King (RP Creator), pointed at the link light on the side of the RP and noted that it was blinking, indicating that there was some type of interference. The moment I started to actually test this baby, I found a circumstance that actually challenged its performance. Apparently, the link light on the receiver unit that indicates it has a link with the other will stay a solid yellow upon its initial link up. After a fire, it will turn off and back on to indicate that it has linked up. If it intermittently blinks then it indicates interference. The receiving unit may or may not fire, depending on the circumstance. We walked literally 15 feet to another location in the restaurant and the problem went AWAY… hey, that was easy enough.
Ok, so now I’ve found a problem on the first frame I’ve tried to expose. In all honesty, this inst my first experience with Interference while transmitting to a slave flash unit… On numerous occasions, I have been using pocket wizards and experienced some sort of interference where my slave units WOULD NOT FIRE. I can recall one specific wedding where Sol Tamargo & I were both trying to trigger our Pocket Wizards. We each have 5 pocket wizards and 4 or so Slaves, each. So thats 10 pocket wizards, 8 slave flashes. In the heat of the moment, we tested all of our PW’s and slaves, traded sync cords, did just about anything possible to make it happen… NADA. There was some sort of interference going on and we could not nail it down. I’m not sure what went on as we never figured it out, but the point is that interference has happened to me before when using a device that transmits via radio signals. The bottom line is that I’m not too worried about this potential problem with the RP at this point. I’ll need some more testing time to give you more thoughts on this.
After my turn was up, Ed Pingol stepped up to the plate and took the RP’s outside. He wanted to test the high speed sync abilities and used 2 slave units. I don’t have any of the TTL settings at this point, but I do know that he used a ST-E2 on the hotshoe and 2 groups on the slaves, A & B. One unit was 3-4 feet away, camera right and the other unit was 6-8 feet away, camera left. I was a spectator
Camera: Canon EOS 40D | ST-E2 set to High Speed Sync
Exposure: 1/8000 sec
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO: 100 - Focal Length: 17 mm
The model is my wife, Sol Tamargo
I’m loving the use of high speed sync with these RP units!
Well, for now, I’m going to close with those photos of my HOT wife…thanks Ed! Thanks Kevin for giving us a chance to play with your new toys! I look forward to working with these units at my next gig. I will be doing a writeup on what it is like to use the RP’s in a live environment where the pressure is ON!
Thoughts or comments about the TTL system and Radiopoppers innovative way to use Radio Signals…. please give us a shout or feel free to drop off your ideas.
I’m really curious as to how many of FF’s readers actually use Manual slave flash operation or TTL…
Cheers!
Mateo
**Update**
I didnt have too much time when I originally wrote this post, so I’ve added one more image that showcases a long distance field test in “ideal conditions” meaning open range without any interference. In this photo example, i’ve added a field test shot at 300+ feet. I’m the spec off in the distance under the arrow holding the flash that is actually being triggered at that distance. We tried several frames where I would stick my hand in front of the antenna and some where Kevin would face the opposite direction to test if and when the slave would trigger. Anyway, here is the football field test…
F3.5 1/4000 ISO 50 ST-E2 trigger on Camera.
photo by Kevin King
and a zoom of this frame to see the slave being triggered.
***Update 2***
I got a few frames from Stillmotion’s tip top shooter, Amina Myriam Wojcik. We were all tag teaming along with the crew who was testing the RP’s. Here are a few of her photos and her 2 cents… She shot these with a Canon 5d and a Tilt and Shift lens… She also has added a cool X-process flavor to her shots…
Amina writes:
At WPPI, I had a chance to check out the Radio Poppers. The group went on two shoots with them, one at a really cool restaurant called Battista’s Hole in the Wall, and on in the desert just outside of Las Vegas.
Because of the different shooting conditions, sometimes I was using one external flash, and sometimes more. I tested them at different ratios and groups, as well as channels and different levels of exposure compensation.
I found that it was easiest to use the ST-E2 with the Radio Poppers, since the ratio controls are right on the back of the unit, and really easy to access. The 580 EXIIs are great for it too, but it takes a little longer to switch settings, so if you’re in a time-crunching situation, be sure to have your “fit-in-your-pocket’ ST-E2.
The Radio Poppers worked at all settings reliably and allowed me to use high-speed sync in bright daylight without worrying about line of sight. It was awesome when I could light some guys playing hacky sack so easily. Now, focus was another issue! Ever tried shooting moving objects with a tilt-shift, at 2.8 in bright daylight with flashes behind your subjects? Not as easy as it sounds!
But it was super fun, and we all got some awesome shots out of it
Above four images credit: Stillmotion’s tip top shooter, Amina Myriam Wojcik.
Thanks Amina & the still motion crew for your help!
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Photographers, Matt Adcock, Sol Tamargo, Kevin King 
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